Turbine Speed Probe Diagnostics for Rotor Stop vs Probe Fault

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Solution Overview

Problem

Existing turbine monitoring systems fail to accurately differentiate between a stopped rotor and a disconnected speed probe, leading to potential equipment damage or safety hazards, and are often limited to specific types of sensors, lacking flexibility in configuration for various turbine protection requirements.

Innovation Solution

A speed probe detection circuit that utilizes electrical characteristics and advanced algorithms to determine the presence and functionality of speed probes, including active, passive, and piezoelectric types, and implements a modular design with programmable protection algorithms for flexible configuration and operation across different turbine types.

Engineering Contradictions & Design Principles

VSEngineering Contradiction Analysis

1Measurement precision

If traditional turbine monitoring systems are used, then the system structure is simple, but the system cannot accurately differentiate between a stopped rotor and a disconnected speed probe

Engineering Contradiction:
Improvedetection accuracyVSAvoidsystem complexity
Core Design Contradiction:
Measurement precisionVSDevice complexity

Solution Approach 1:

The system performs preliminary diagnostic tests by applying test voltages to the speed probe before normal operation to detect disconnections or faults. The control system proactively checks probe integrity by monitoring electrical characteristics and comparing expected versus actual signals, enabling early detection of probe issues before they cause unsafe conditions.

Inventive Principle:
Principle #10Preliminary action

Solution Approach 2:

The patent introduces an intermediary diagnostic system that mediates between the speed probe and the main control system. This intermediary layer analyzes probe signals, applies test voltages, and determines whether signal loss indicates a stopped rotor or a disconnected probe, thereby resolving the ambiguity without requiring complete system redesign.

Inventive Principle:
Principle #24Intermediary (Mediator)

2Adaptability or versatility

If monitoring systems are designed for specific sensor types, then the detection algorithm is optimized, but the system lacks flexibility for various turbine protection requirements

Engineering Contradiction:
Improveconfiguration flexibilityVSAvoidprotection reliability
Core Design Contradiction:
Adaptability or versatilityVSReliability

Solution Approach 1:

The control system is designed with universal diagnostic capabilities that can handle multiple sensor types including speed probes, strain gauges, and other turbine monitoring sensors. The system provides configurable protection algorithms that can be adapted to different turbine configurations and protection requirements while maintaining reliable operation through standardized diagnostic procedures.

Inventive Principle:
Principle #6Universality (Multi-functionality)

Solution Approach 2:

The monitoring system employs dynamic, configurable protection algorithms that can be adjusted based on specific turbine requirements. The system allows flexible configuration of trip thresholds, diagnostic parameters, and protection settings while maintaining reliable operation through adaptive response to different sensor types and turbine operating conditions.

Inventive Principle:
Principle #15Dynamics

3Reliability

If the system applies voltage to test the speed probe, then the probe condition can be detected, but the live operator could be shocked

Engineering Contradiction:
Improvediagnostic reliabilityVSAvoidsafety hazard
Core Design Contradiction:
ReliabilityVSObject-affected harmful factors

Solution Approach 1:

The system performs preliminary diagnostic voltage applications under controlled conditions to test speed probe integrity. Before applying test voltages, the system ensures isolation from live circuits and uses low-voltage test signals that are sufficient for diagnostic purposes but pose minimal shock hazard to operators performing maintenance or inspections.

Inventive Principle:
Principle #10Preliminary action

Solution Approach 2:

The diagnostic system incorporates safety measures that cushion against potential hazards before they can affect operators. Test voltage applications are pre-configured with current limiting and isolation mechanisms, and the system provides clear status indicators to prevent operators from working on energized diagnostic circuits, thereby eliminating shock hazards before they can occur.

Inventive Principle:
Principle #11Beforehand cushioning (Prior cushioning)

Data Source

PatentUS11773721B2Turbine diagnostics
Publication Date: 2023.10.03 ABB (SCHWEIZ) AG
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AI summary

A turbine speed probe diagnostic system is provided. The turbine includes a speed probe and a speed reading circuit. A speed lead connects the speed probe and speed reading circuit together to transmit speed signals from the speed probe to the speed reading circuit. A speed probe diagnostic circuit is also provided for connection to the speed lead. An isolation switch is provided to isolate the speed probe diagnostic circuit during normal operation when the speed reading circuit is receiving speed signals from the speed probe. When no speed signals are being received, the isolation switch closes and the speed probe diagnostic circuit performs a test on the speed probe or speed lead.