The present disclosure provides a compound of formula (I): or a pharmaceutically acceptable salt thereof, wherein: X1 is CH or N; p is 0, 1 or 2; wherein: each R1 is a
substituent on any C atom and is independently selected from the group consisting of F, Cl, C1-3
alkyl and C1-3 alkoxy wherein the C1-3
alkyl and C1-3 alkoxy may be independently optionally substituted by one or more F; rN is selected from H and Me; n is 0, 1 or 2; m is 0 or 1; q1 is CH or N; q2 is CH or N when neither n nor m is 0; when both n and m are 0, Q2 is CH; when n is 0 or 1, Q3 is CH; when n is 2 and Q2 is N, Q3 is CH; when n is 2 and Q2 is CH, Q3 is CH or O; r2a and R2b are substituents on the same or different C atoms other than at Q1 or Q2, each independently selected from H, F and C1-3
alkyl, or R2a and R2b together form a-(CH2) r-group wherein r is 1, 2 or 3; q4 is a
single bond or-NR4C (= O); r4 is H or Me; 0, 1, or 2 of Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4, and Y5 is N, otherwise C; each R3 is a
substituent on any C atom at Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 and Y5 and is independently selected from the group consisting of F, Cl, CN, C1-3 alkyl and C1-3 alkoxy wherein the C1-3 alkyl and C1-3 alkoxy may be independently optionally substituted by one or more F; q is 0, 1 or 2; wherein the
linker is attached to any available C atom at Y4 and Y5; the
linker is a saturated or partially or fully unsaturated framework comprising a C atom and an H atom and at least one
heteroatom, wherein the framework has a length of 5 to 26 atoms connecting the endpoints'a 'and'b' and between'a 'and'b'; wherein the framework may comprise one or more linear and / or branched chains and / or rings and are optionally substituted by one or more F on any available C atom; and W is an E3
ubiquitin ligase cerebron binding agent unit.